The young women sent to them often suffered harsh treatment at the hands of the nuns who believed sex outside marriage was a mortal sin. No. 'They needed to dig for worms and one day they lifted up some old slabs that had been lying since before the estate was built'. The home was one of several throughout strongly Catholic Ireland. Have never been anywhere near Belfast>And thus are unlikely to have been exposed to Irish propaganda of any>description. HE had distant HIMSELF even before creating man. Not sure why this ULdoesn't belong here, Phil. : To me this reeks of urban legendand the makings of a great (if: controversial) horror movie. June 4, 2014 article: Inquisitr reported Tuesday about the discovery of nearly 800 bodies found in a septic tank on the property of a former Catholic mother and baby home.. When a reporter fromTheJournal.ieasked them last week about this, the garda simply never responded. Even our language seems to have gotten around somewhat. 'The local lads used to go fishing in the river', John said. Alberto Rivera tells about the same happening i Spain, he is more specific in counting as many as 35 000 skeletons, in a mass grave pit in a tunnell between a male and female convent in Spain. Here, we look at how the story has unfolded, and all of the many, many questions that still remain. The grave is marked with an image of a little lamb and underneath is a creepy-looking portrait of young George. "Children went in there so the families could conceal their shame". Have never been anywhere near Belfast>: And thus are unlikely to have been exposed to Irish propaganda of any>: description.>>The Irish and the English got around, and they tended to take their >stories/propaganda with them. There was no investigation of any kind into who was buried there and what had happened to them. The Bon Secours nuns released a statement through a PR company on Thursday. It is most likely that this will lead to a statutory inquiry into Tuam, and possibly into other Mother and Baby homes. I had nightmares over it.'. The Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home (also known as St Mary's Mother and Baby Home or simply The Home) that operated between 1925 and 1961 in the town of Tuam, County Galway, Ireland, was a maternity home for unmarried mothers and their children. So, there can easily be babies in convents without any nuns or priests being biological parents. Also, some convents used to operateor be affiliated with orphanages, so people would leave babies there. Except that both the person who told me the story and the person whoheard it (me):1. nuns buried babies in walls. They claim that the Pontiff has the right attitude in regards to abortion and family values, and that we need to stay united. What the boys found was horrific. It is possible that the infants were born to prostitutes or laborers who worked at the bathhouse. In 1871 Sister Josefa Cadena, a strict Dominican nun, was sent by Pope Pius IX to reform the monastery. The "dead babies come back to haunt the place they are buried (orwere killed)" was discussed at length in one of the chapters. "We are investigating this matter, the grounds have been surveyed and there is what appears to be human remains discovered. She said that she had discovered a gruesome cemetery in the convent's basement where the tiny bodies were buried, along with the young nuns who refused to take part in the orgies. Good question. >chris 'fufas' grace writes:>| I suppose it's quite possible that there were areas in>| cemeteries reserved for illegitimate children, suicides, etc, and this>| has mutated over the years. "Eventually I had to contact the registry office in Galway," she told IrishCentral. That an' all. It's been closed for more than 50 years? The stories about the sewage tank began to make sense. I am a medievalist, and the'rumour' is pretty common all over Europe, and especially in England, where itgained a lot of strength following the dissolution of the monasteries (andnunneries) by Henry VIII. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. UCD historian Lindsey Earner-Byrne who has researched this area extensively has said that Tuam was not exceptional. Some of them were put up for adoption - which, some contend, was done without the consent of the parents -while some remained in the care of the nuns. It was just the thing for a bored 12-year-old on a family vacation. There are many cases of secret passages found under important colonial churches, convents, and monasteries that were used for many reasons. 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We spent quite a while trying to ferret out the exact version of this story- "a recent excavation found that nuns secretly buried a lot of their illegitimate children near the nunnery"- and never did actually find one that matched the details that someone remembered. This rate is significantly higher than Ireland's infant mortality rates at the time. or are they just barrelled straight into hell? On the Urban Legend [www.urbanlegend.com] site there was the opinion thatpeople usually make up something sinister any time there are tunnelsespecially if not just anyone uses them. Protestant authors loved to imagine the secret sins of Catholics. "Passed around for generations" may have been an understatement. In the same way they stopped the no meat on Fridays and now only during lent. So is there an inquiry? Nearly 800 children died at the Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in the town of Tuam, in western Ireland, according to death certificates discovered by a local historian, Catherine Corless. And if infants now are sure of salvation without being baptized, why baptize them at all? The hundreds of letters I received from mothers and children forcibly separated by the nuns, and still seeking each other even now, made me painfully aware of the full human tragedy behind Ireland's mother and baby homes. Ireland's once-powerful Catholic Church has been rocked by a series of scandals over the abuse and neglect of children in recent years. Smythe. They are the 796 babies and young children aged between two days and nine years whose grave, "filled to the brim with tiny bones and skulls," was found last week in an unmarked site that once. Note the absence of a Catholic spin on the story. Mr Dodd quoted the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes report, which ruled out the possibility that the 859 babies, whose burial places are unknown, might be buried in the nuns . When, of course, most tunnelshave very dull uses. Are 12,000 miles from Belfast.>: 2. It's so obvious I suspect that It has been done already. In most cases, these were made in order to take the nuns and priests directly to the church so that they wouldn't have contact with the outside world. A friend of mine served an LDS mission in Peru and apparently heardthe same story there. The reason this time is the sensational claim based on no hard evidence whatsoever that nuns in the Bon Secours congregation callously and perhaps criminally dumped 800 babies in a septic. Sally figured the boy fell from the window in 1944 or so, because she was moving to the "big girls" dormitory that day. Or maybe the church and state are expressing shock that nuns in mid-20th century. And so HE told HIS people (I mean not just the Jews but all who love and obey HIM) You are a holy people unto me, do not mingle with the heathen) these heathen we now know are none other than the serpent-seedline. She said that the cemetery attachedto the church (attached to the convent attached to the orphanage) hada walled off area for the illegitimate offspring of Nuns (who couldnot be buried in consecrated ground). Probably already has. Simon.-- http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk | There's a *reason* why talk.politics. Catherine managed to get a map of The Home back from when it was a workhouse in the late 19th and early 20th century. What about the reports of medical trials carried out on the children? Many of the. Reuters. But, there would still be some written record of what happened ifit really happened [e.g., birth certificates, death certificates, etc.]. P J Haverty, who grew up in the home and was then placed in foster care at the age of six, called the facility a prison. Could that be it? We don't. As Burke lays trapped in a coffin in the graveyard of the abbey grounds, Irene wanders the halls alone by lantern light. Why is it in the spotlight now? An investigation? Dichotomy is still a major concern for the Catholic Church now. Is abortion taking the life of a morally innocent unborn child? IE 11 is not supported. She said she was surprised by the mass grave but not by the numbers, noting that all the mother-and-baby homes shared the common trait of very high infant mortality rates, "significantly higher than the mortality rates for 'legitimate' babies". Over 400 children's bodies have been discovered on the grounds of a Catholic Church run by nuns in Lanarkshire, southern Scotland. Local people knew that the area had served as some kind of graveyard for children in The Home, and a local couple began to take care of it, erecting a grotto in the corner and maintaining it. Some would say that the Minister had to step in. There exists a clear moral imperative on the Bon Secours Sisters to act upon their responsibilities. >Except that both the person who told me the story and the person who>heard it (me):>1. People, when they cook up stories like this, forget that not all babiesthat are born live very long.
Given the seriousness of the issue, Government Minister Kathleen Lynch has said that the vaccine trials should form part of any forthcoming inquiry.